I've thought about this for a couple of days - and I want to say, right at the outset, that this has NOTHING to do with Dirk and his aliases.
There is another problem:
There are several moderators on this board, and they each seem to have a different "philosophy" of how to approach their task. Some leave everything well-alone (maybe because they are hardly ever here?!), some are very hands on.
Recently, a thread was locked, and the mod (colleen) explained why. Fine. I disagreed with the action, but I liked the fact that the action was EXPLAINED. Then, however, the locked thread was moved elsewhere, and unlocked! No explanation of who did this, or why. Then, another mod re-locked it (with explanation). What's going on? Do the mods discuss things - or do they just act off their own bat? Seems the latter - colleen locked the thread in question because of how it had gone into a "bickering match", but there are LOTS of threads here where that's been happening - and hardly ever do they get locked.
Next: deleting posts. It hasn't happened to me, but I understand some mods are deleting posts for various reasons. I would ask that when you do this, you EXPLAIN. Otherwise, threads become meaningless.
Lastly, and this is personal. I have been banned TWICE by a moderator recently. An appeal to Dmitry has got me back on quickly (thanks, D), and quite properly has not told me which mod has done the banning. I don't use bad language, though I do enjoy a battle - as do MANY others who don't get banned. It's hard to escape the feeling that a mod has it in for me, and bans me when I annoy them enough. I may well be banned again for this post! The correct thing to do is to WARN someone if you feel that they are overstepping a boundary, and tell them how they can avoid deletions/bannings. I don't like the peremptory and hidden nature of what happens here sometimes. It's hard to escape the conclusion that some mods have had the "power" go to their heads. Further, this board has no common policy about the role of moderator.
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February 16, 2005, 10:24pm
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Okay, I explained why the thread was locked. I locked it because it got to the point where no one was even discussing the topic. It had become a flame war. I'm not all gung ho on deleting threads and locking them. For the most part I leave things alone. I only had the power to lock that thread because I'm the mod for that board. I agree with you that there are A LOT of threads that contain bickering matches but if they aren't on the forum I'm a mod for I don't have the control to lock it. I don't know who unlocked it and moved it though. It wasn't me. But, now I've noticed that the topic is completely gone. Someone else must have deleted it. Obviously things aren't discussed amongst moderators and maybe they should be.
WTF? I just saw that the thread was moved to the Selling section. Okay, that wasn't me. Unless Dmitry did it but I don't understand why he'd move it there.
Frankly this place is turning into a large zoo. Not a very pleasant one either.
Well I don't get it. There used to be a lot of discussion/debates going on at this forum. It was great. Now it's all fluff. Anytime I try and debate or discuss it either goes nowhere or if there is a differing opinion it turns into childish responses. I like to hear different opinions especially when they're backed up by something. I like to hear others opinions. Not, that was great or well to each his own. Where's the discussion???? Isn't that why we're here? And when a person doesn't agree, it doesn't mean they're trying to annoy or p*ss people off. Anyway, now I'm rambling. I hope it makes sense.
Well I don't get it. There used to be a lot of discussion/debates going on at this forum. It was great. Now it's all fluff. Anytime I try and debate or discuss it either goes nowhere or if there is a differing opinion it turns into childish responses. I like to hear different opinions especially when they're backed up by something. I like to hear others opinions. Not, that was great or well to each his own. Where's the discussion???? Isn't that why we're here? And when a person doesn't agree, it doesn't mean they're trying to annoy or p*ss people off. Anyway, now I'm rambling. I hope it makes sense.
Of course it doesn't. What the hell is the matter with you???
You're right, of course. And yes, you have been discussing pretty in depth stuff from what I've seen.
These things tend to go in waves, sometimes a lot of thoughtful analysis, other times fluff. Partly, I think, because there's just not that much new in Beatle land all that often. When there is a new release or controversy or something everyone responds.
When nothing is going on tho it gets boring and then people will say anything just to talk. Kind of common, really.
I would just keep posting on topic, avoiding the flames when you can, and know that you are a contributor and not a person who can only tear-down.
Ah! You scared me for a minute! Anyway, I guess my so called discussion posts are not so interesting. I'll try to stop. I just end up annoying people anyway. That's what happens when I get to chatty.
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I've thought about this for a couple of days - and I want to say, right at the outset, that this has NOTHING to do with Dirk and his aliases.
There is another problem:
There are several moderators on this board, and they each seem to have a different "philosophy" of how to approach their task. Some leave everything well-alone (maybe because they are hardly ever here?!), some are very hands on.
Recently, a thread was locked, and the mod (colleen) explained why. Fine. I disagreed with the action, but I liked the fact that the action was EXPLAINED. Then, however, the locked thread was moved elsewhere, and unlocked! No explanation of who did this, or why. Then, another mod re-locked it (with explanation). What's going on? Do the mods discuss things - or do they just act off their own bat? Seems the latter - colleen locked the thread in question because of how it had gone into a "bickering match", but there are LOTS of threads here where that's been happening - and hardly ever do they get locked.
Next: deleting posts. It hasn't happened to me, but I understand some mods are deleting posts for various reasons. I would ask that when you do this, you EXPLAIN. Otherwise, threads become meaningless.
Lastly, and this is personal. I have been banned TWICE by a moderator recently. An appeal to Dmitry has got me back on quickly (thanks, D), and quite properly has not told me which mod has done the banning. I don't use bad language, though I do enjoy a battle - as do MANY others who don't get banned. It's hard to escape the feeling that a mod has it in for me, and bans me when I annoy them enough. I may well be banned again for this post! The correct thing to do is to WARN someone if you feel that they are overstepping a boundary, and tell them how they can avoid deletions/bannings. I don't like the peremptory and hidden nature of what happens here sometimes. It's hard to escape the conclusion that some mods have had the "power" go to their heads. Further, this board has no common policy about the role of moderator.
I dont think mods have the ability to ban. As for the move, I dont know what happened there, however I do think locking threads is wrong.
That could be likely considering I sure as hell didn't delete my own post at the end of the thread and then move the topic to a completely different forum.
As for locking threads, that was the only thread I have ever locked the entire time I've been a mod. The arguing was getting out of hand and I was receiving PMs asking me to put a stop to it. It's not like I just decided out of the blue to lock a thread for the hell of it. I think locking/deleting threads without giving a reason is wrong. That has happened more than once here.
Anyway, I guess my so called discussion posts are not so interesting. I'll try to stop. I just end up annoying people anyway. That's what happens when I get to chatty.
No, you are a great conversationalist. I like reading your posts.
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