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beatlesnumber9
March 29, 2005, 2:06pm Report to Moderator

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Setting aside wishful thinking and Beatle fiction masquerading as fact, let's look at history. There's a lot of truth in factual history. You are entitled to all kinds of opinions, but it doesn't change reality.

Even after the April 10th announcement, the remaining three Beatles were still publicly stating that the Beatles, as an entity, still existed and this was a temporary hiatus. A few weeks after Paul's statement, Ringo told a reporter, "I just feel it in my bones that we'll probably all be recording together again before very long." George said, "There is every prospect" that the Beatles eventually would work together again. "Everyone this year is trying to do his individual album, but after that, I am ready to go back to work together again." In early summer, George, while working on "All Things Must Pass", again said he'd expect the Beatles to be working together, possibly by the end of the year.

John initially had little response to Paul's announcement, saying only, "Paul phoned me to say 'I've decided to leave The Beatles.' It was good to hear from him, now that I know he's not dead [a reference to the "Paul is dead" hoax that broke the previous fall]."

In the May 14 edition of _Rolling Stone_, John made his feelings clearer: "It's the simple fact that [Paul] can't have his own way, so he causing chaos. I put out four albums last year, and I didn't say a fucking word about quitting."

In June, Paul, through his attorney, began the slow process of dissolving the partnership, raising the issue with John via a letter later that summer. John refused to discuss the issue. Paul again raised it during a meeting with the other three in New York that October. They refused to address it then, either.

McCartney filed suit against the Allen Klein and the other three Beatles on December 31, 1970, asking that The Beatles and Co. be legally dissolved that that a receiver be appointed in the meanwhile.

With that, the Beatles were no more.

Say what you will about the various arguments over guitar leads, drum breaks and girlfriends, but make no mistake, the facts are these: Paul went public and ignited the press firestorm that immediately erupted thereafter. He insisted on an immediate legal dissolution of the partnership, igniting almost a decade of vitriolic court battles.

It is important to note that all of John's statements regarding the breakup, such as the fact that he'd actually left first, et cetera, were made after Paul's public announcement and the subsequent hard feelings it generated.

The bitter statements against Paul by the other three that appear in the court affidavits leave no doubt whatsoever as to who "broke up the Beatles."

The ironic thing is that, a mere three years later, John, George and Ringo split with Allen Klein and sued him. If Paul had bided his time, he'd have gotten what he'd wanted (the problem, of course, was Klein; Paul wanted Eastman to manage the group), and the Beatles might have been back in the recording studio in 1975.

Or maybe not.



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Mike S.
March 29, 2005, 3:24pm Report to Moderator

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To tell the truth, I really do not care who broke them up. The sad thing is, that they broke up....  


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The post is a response to the people who still blame Yoko. IF you want to blame one person, then blame Paul.

It might be a sad thing they broke up (it was at the time). But they went out on top with Abbey Rd and ensured their status as a legend.



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John Lennon's mind was passing from the Beatles, certainly by late 1967. George Harrison was getting increasingly frustrated that the Beatles were a vehicle for Lennon & Mccartney to realize their songs, and not his. Ringo was getting frustrated with his increasingly minimalist role (remember his memory of Pepper was being bored and playing cards with Mal).

They were changing. THAT'S what broke up the Beatles.
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Quoted from beatlesnumber9
The post is a response to the people who still blame Yoko. IF you want to blame one person, then blame Paul.

It might be a sad thing they broke up (it was at the time). But they went out on top with Abbey Rd and ensured their status as a legend.



People who know anything about the Beatles know that there was no one person responsible for the break-up. You cannot "blame" Yoko, or Paul, or any one person.

What a myth this "Abbey Rod ... ensured their legend status" is. Come on, they were legends because of what went before 1969. Much as YOU might like Abbey Road, I think an album half-full of glossy unfinished songs has little to do with the Beatles legendary status.
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number14
March 29, 2005, 10:02pm Report to Moderator

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the beatles wives




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especially linda and yoko




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Ydoll Gwyn
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Quoted from number14
the beatles wives


Guess again.

Quoted from number14
especially linda and yoko


And again.
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YEAH RIGHT! It was NOT Linda and Yoko. If anything, they helped their husbands through the breakup. (Well, that was mainly Linda, but anyways, that's not the point...)

It was no single person. It was everything, they changed.


You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you.
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It was Life...
It was only a band, like Lennon says...
I'm glad they broek up when they did, although the split was bitter.
If they never split, we may have got another Abbey Road, except this time, the artificial   glitter would have lost its sparkle.


Whats the matter lads? Blue Meanies?

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What's happening, Indica? I'm in total agreement with you.
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Whats the matter lads? Blue Meanies?

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an album half-full of glossy unfinished songs


ouch! i love those glossy songs...

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People who know anything about the Beatles know that there was no one person responsible for the break-up. You cannot "blame" Yoko, or Paul, or any one person.

What a myth this "Abbey Rod ... ensured their legend status" is. Come on, they were legends because of what went before 1969. Much as YOU might like Abbey Road, I think an album half-full of glossy unfinished songs has little to do with the Beatles legendary status.


Hi there. I never gave my critique of Abbey Rd, because that wasn't the point of my post. They did however go out on top.

The break up was provoked by a lot of things. It may have been inevitable and completely unavoidable. It may have been right, it might have been wrong. Wives, egoism, Brian's death, growing up, etc. These are all valid opinions.

But I stand by my first post. Only in the historical, legal and physical sense of the word, Paul dissolved (broke up) The Beatles. This is a fact.

I feel that things changed the most at the time Paul wrote Yesterday and John made the statement (out of context) that The Beatles were bigger than Jesus. It might not have been apparent to the world, but the other three were not happy with John. On top of that he was getting death threats and the KKK demonstrated a concert in Alabama. John was a wounded man, and very paranoid. The stage was set for Paul to play leader of the band. They quit writing together and wrote in competition (a good competition that produced some great music), but things were changing rapidly. The split had been set in motion.

They were the greatest band on earth. Each Beatle handled mega-fame and fortune in a sane down to earth way. They were/are each magnificant, friendly, very talented and very human people.

I miss John and George very much.  

I LOVE THE BEATLES



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