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You're right Raxo!
They started the session early, went to Paul's house to see the film and then finished the song afterwards.


That's what I had read!  
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I sometimes get mixed up, but wasnt John infatuated with Bridget Bardot? I thought I read numerous times that he always had a crush on her (even having Cynthia dress like her) and Bardot had actually turned him down once. I'm probably wrong, but I swear thats how I remember it.


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Any chance of a translation ole fella?



The Beatles and their hectic meeting with Jayne Mansfield - ''Whiskey-a-Go-Go'' Hollywood, California (August 26, 1964)
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Jayne Mansfield was a platinum blonde, born in 1933, especially famous for being a sex symbol in mid 50's, starred in ''The Girl Can't Help It'' (1956) and ''Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?'' (1957), a 20th Century Fox star by then, when this major film studios began to have problems with Marilyn Monroe and decided to duplicate her, a bad copy would be better to say ... but Mansfield soon believed in her own publicity. She imagined herself as much or even bigger than Monroe and she spent all her time starring headlines of scandals, her habit for drinking, her addiction for pills for hysterics, for getting up, for sleeping, etc ... this would happen especially in the last part of her life around June 29, 1967 when she died in a tragic car accident ... (Newspapers said she was decapitated, but it was not so).

But the reason for this brief review of Jayne Mansfield is not to describe her artistic achievements (if she had any), nor to talk about her physical attributes ... we're trying to place the moment in which the Hollywood star was when she met The Beatles... Marilyn Monroe's death (August 5, 1962) was the end of blonde bombs' era, while the sexual revolution in USA was finishing with the "bad girls" roles in films, so Jayne Mansfield was facing up to a crisis of popularity by 1964, when she met The Beatles. Mansfield's career was descendent by that time, making only ''B'' films (low in quality and budget). In 1964, Mansfield was also doing tours in classless night clubs and made some sporadic TV appearances. She was going to get married (after a recent divorce) to the film director Matt Cimber, who was her manager too ...



Going back in time till 1956, John Lennon, Paul McCartney and George Harrison were among the rock 'n' roll fans that went to the cinemas to see the ''The Girl Cant Help It'' film, one classic of its time, with a constellation of rock 'n' roll stars such: Little Richard, The Platters, Eddie Cochran, Gene Vincent, Fats Domino, and with the voluptuous actress Jayne Mansfield (playing the role of Jerri Jordan), that would become till that moment on one of sexual fantasies of those teen Beatles.
Who would guess that destiny would get these characters together 8 years later (in 1964) in different situations: The Beatles as the biggest act in the world and Jayne Mansfield with her career extinguishing and needing urgently of publicity to get back to the headlines.


PRESS CONFERENCE AT THE''CINNAMON CINDER'', LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA

On Sunday, August 23, 1964 (7:30 pm), in the middle of their American tour, The Beatles were in Los Angeles, California giving a press conference at the teen night club called ''Cinnamon Cinder'' (2 hours later they would play at the ''Hollywood Bowl'').

-Journalist: Would you like to make a film in Hollywood?
-John Lennon: Yeah
-George Harrison: We don't mind, but we make the film where the company thinks it's suitable.
-John Lennon: ...and cheaper (laughter)
-Journalist: What movie actors would you like to meet in Hollywood?
-Ringo Starr: Paul Newman
-Journalist: What about actresses?"
-Paul McCartney: Jayne Mansfield
Chris Hutchins, a ''New Musical Express'' magazine reporter, who was close to The Beatles (he would arrange the meeting between The Beatles and Elvis Presley in 1965) took advantage of this McCartney's wish from the press conference.
Hutchins was precisely at the press conference and approached McCartney. ''Seriously, Paul, would you really like to meet Jayne Mansfield?''... McCartney nodded.



Immediately, a note written using a pencil was given to Derek Taylor, The Beatles' press agent.
The message said: ''Derek, Paul stated that he would like to meet Jayne Mansfield.
If I can arrange it, could I have the photos and the story?''
''Do you think you can arrange a date?'' was Taylor's answer, that was answered affirm.
A half an hour later, to ultimate details for the meeting ---originally thought as a Paul McCartney & Jayne Mansfield meeting only-- it was talked to Derek Taylor in the backstage of the ''Hollywood Bowl''. Next day, August 24 --while The Beatles were taking a rest in the rented mansion in Bel Air, Derek Taylor called Matt Cimber (Jayne Mansfield's boyfriend and manager).


THE BEATLES POSING BY THE SWIMINGPOOL OF THE RENTED MANSION IN BEL AIR

By then, not only McCartney but the other three Beatles wished to meet Jayne Mansfield too, but they refused to have them photographed with the blonde bomb ...Paul McCartney was the only one who was determined. Mansfield's manager's idea was that The Beatles would have being drinking some tea, poured by Jayne Mansfield, all by the swimming pool. It was publicity thanks to The Beatles' fame.


JOHN LENNON AND JAYNE MANSFIELD AT THE ''WHISKEY-a-GO-GO''

The Beatles wanted to meet Mansfield, better if she came to their mansion in Bel Air, but without photos, because it was a Brian Epstein's habitual rule to avoid photos with celebrities.
A new problem, agreement between The Beatles' diary and Jayne Mansfield's, who had obligations for the whole week at the Anaheim night club ... time was short because The Beatles would only be available for a couple of days (until August 26), when they would left to Denver with their tour, but Jayne Mansfield didn't want to miss such an opportunity to be in the headlines, because it was and it would be, for the group's entire career, the only time The Beatles invited a female film star to their home to meet her.



August 25, The Beatles lost hope of meeting the voluptuous blonde, so they accepted one invitation from the actor Burt Lancaster to have dinner and to see the ''A Shot In The Dark'' film (starring Peter Sellers and Elke Sommer) at his house, being John Lennon alone at the Bel Air house, who seized the opportunity to receive some guests and to give some interviews.
For Lennon surprise, that midnight Jayne Mansfield appeared at the Bel Air mansion entrance.
There and witnessing this indescribable scene were: Bess Coleman, Derek Taylor, Mal Evans, Neil Aspinall, her manager and boyfriend Matt Cimber, an assistant and two Jayne Mansfield's bodyguards.



Jayne, was wearing one Persian cat coat, and Lennon told her ''I was dying to meet you, Miss Mansfield'', to what she corrected him by saying, ''Call me just Jaynie'', adding, ''I was also dying to meet all of you, wonderful guys---but where are the others?''.
Then Mansfield suggestively caressed Lennon's hair, whispering: ''Is it your real hair?'' and Lennon answered, taking a look at her prominent bust, the most famous attribute of Mansfield, ''Well, and are those real?''... to which Mansfield, without turning a hair, answered: ''There's only one way of ascertaining that, ain't there?''



Lennon mixed cocktails for her and her assistants, mixing gin, vodka, red wine and cocaine as the ''secret ingredient''...Jayne asked her friend to read her the Tarot, for her and Lennon.
Her friend began the cast and suddenly he dropped them horrified,  exclaiming, ''Oh my God, this is terrible, I see a tragic end for both of you in all this" (right prediction, as it's said before Jayne Mansfield died three years later victim of one car accident and Lennon was shot in 1980). By hearing this, Lennon got angry and threw the cards.



Chris Hutchins suggested Lennon to take Jayne Mansfield and her retinue to the famous pub ''Whiskey-a-Go-Go'' on Sunset Boulevard and maybe to dance the watusi.
Lennon liked the idea but Hutchins warned him that the other Beatles would never forgive him if he didn't tell them of this date with Jayne Mansfield. And because of Lennon couldn't be alone with the blonde actress--as he wished--because of the presence of Matt Cimber, her boyfriend  and manager and the Mansfield's bodyguards, he had to leave a telephone message to Harrison and Starr to search for them at the ''Whiskey-a-Go-Go''.
Actually, Lennon was angry because of the presence of Mansfield's boyfriend, because his intentions were different. George Harrison and Ringo Starr, already a little drunken after the dinner with Burt Lancaster, went rapidly to join Lennon. The paradox, Paul McCartney who had originally caused it was not present at any moment, because it was supposed that he disappeared to have a romantic and secret date with the actress Peggy Lipton, who he met the previous evening.



Entering 'Whiskey-a-Go-Go' was terribly complicated, because the three Beatles:
Lennon, Harrison and Starr, wanted to go unnoticed and not to be annoyed or photographed ---obviously Jayne Mansfield's interest was the contrary, she wanted to exploit the situation, so she might have made some telephone calls to the press and the paparazzi of Hollywood went rapidly where they were.
It took the Beatles twenty minutes to get from the door to their table, because everybody wanted to be near them.


JAYNE MANSFIELD BETWEEN HARRISON AND LENNON

At the table and calm, Lennon disclosed Jayne Mansfield about the ''secret ingredient'' which he had mixed the cocktails at the Bel Air mansion, they also talked about poetry and the Shakespeare Festival of that year, about John's new book and Mansfield's new album (she had recorded several LP's ) the one titled ''Tchaikovsky, Shakespeare & Me''.
Close to the table, the actress Mamie Van Doren, another blonde celebrity and a competitor to Jayne Mansfield was at the ''Whiskey-a-Go-Go'', who came to greet and meet The Beatles, but it seems that they didn't know her.



Mansfield was sitting between Lennon and Harrison, supposedly she had her hands very busy caressing either side of both the Beatles' ''groins'' (one story confirmed by Harrison in the Anthology
Suddenly or with some help (we guess) one photographer came to the table where the group were and began to take photos with a powerful flash, very quickly.
Harrison upset and very drunkenly threw one glass of whiskey & Coca Cola over photographer, but accidentally knocked over a bucket of ice, soaking actress Mamie Van Doren's face, who was close to the table. (Harrison, denied this, because he said that the ice was melted in the glass and that it was only liquid what he spilt over the face of the actress, but Mamie Van Doren in her autobiography ''Playing The Field'' stated that it was a bucket of ice that hit her in the face.


DRUNKEN GEORGE HARRISON THROWING WHISKEY AND COCA COLA TO A PHOTOGRAPHER

A racket was kicked up at the ''Whiskey-a-Go-Go'', so big that there was no way of exit from there, because everybody was surrounding there. Mansfield's bodyguards lifted George Harrison and Ringo Starr up in the air in order to take them out of the place, because people were trying to get near them. On the next day, a pair of photos of the incident appeared in the 'Herald Examiner'' daily, where one drunken and annoyed George Harrison can be seen.
Exclusively, ''The Beatles Connection'' offer you some photos of ''Whiskey-a-Go-Go'' incident, one of the least known situations in which The Beatles  were involved.


GEORGE HARRISON TRY TO GET OUT OF''WHISKEY-a-GO-GO, AFTER THE INCIDENT WITH THE PHOTOGRAPHER TO AVOID PRESS AND CURIOUS HARASSMENT

Jayne Mansfield stated later: ''Unfortunately, we couldn't have privacy. To enter ''Whiskey-a-Go-Go'' you've got to be 21-year-old, but all the adult people who were there were acting as teens.''
Jayne Mansfield described The Beatles in this way: ''John is very ingenious and funny...George is really great. So relaxed and polite. Ringo is adorable, very reserved. He doesn't say a word at all, unless it's something important...''
What did Jayne Mansfield think of Paul McCartney, the one who started all this and never met Jayne Mansfield? ''Paul and I couldn't meet each other; he lost all the joy...''


GEORGE HARRISON IN THE AIR AND HELPED TO EXIT ''WHISKEY-a-GO-GO''
IN A CROWD TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL


JAYNE MANSFIELD - BEATLES RELATED TRIVIA
--September 18, 1968--years later of the premier, The Beatles interrupted one of the ''White Album'' recording sessions. They were recording takes of the ''Birthday'' song at Abbey Road Studios and they left the work to go with various people (including Yoko Ono, Pattie Harrison and Chris Thomas ) to Paul McCartney's house at Cavendish Avenue to see ''The Girl Can't Help It'' film on TV for the first time in England.
Hours later and influenced by the film, McCartney with more energy in his veins and with Little Richard and Fats Domino in mind restarted the ''Birthday'' session with everybody in support.

--Jayne Mansfield is shown in the inside cover of the ''Beatles For Sale'' album (designed by Robert Freeman). It was exactly in the inside of the album where a collage pic shows the group standing with a collection of images of films including Albert Finney, lan Carmichael, Victor Mature and Jayne Mansfield who appears near Paul McCartney.



--Jayne Mansfield died in a car accident in 1967. John Lennon always remembered that fact of the Tarot when she met Jayne Mansfield in 1964 and he was in alarm.
As it's known, Lennon was obsessed with numbers and, particularly, with number nine.
Lennon said to Chris Hutchins: ''Jayne was born on April 19 and died on June 29.
April is the forth month and June the sixth. If you put them together you have one ten. I was born on October 9, the ninth day of the tenth month.
Jayne Mansfield died two months after her birthday, that means that I'm going to die on one day with a nine, in the month of December.''
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Thanks Raxo.It's amusing that Paul, whose idea it was, never met her.
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And here's some more info of what Paul was up to :

Behind the scenes Peggy was much gossiped about and as her revealing memoir tells us, it turns out to have been all true. Her affair with Paul McCartney is beautifully told. As she describes it, she was kind of squeezed in between Jane Asher and Linda Eastman, and I for one can see how Asher, Eastman, and Heather Mills are all variations on the Peggy Lipton type. She lived with Lou Adler and so she was right at the center of the LA "youthquake" with the Monterey Pop Festival, the Mamas and the Papas, etc. She even made an LP which I wish was included as a CD in the back of this book but alas no. She survived a close encounter with Sammy Davis Jr., and she "ended up spending three long weekends" with the one and only Elvis Presley.
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Thanks Raxo.It's amusing that Paul, whose idea it was, never met her.


I really appreciate those words, zipp, spicealley from someone like you!!!! (your info was awesome too, thanks!!!)
I've translated it after several hours of partying -I've been partying almost all the weak-end - so I assume that some -several, for sure- mistakes were made so I'd like to ask you: anything you don't understand, please, let me know and I'll try to explain better ...

P.S. Sorry for the delay, The End!!!
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I remember watching Johnny Carson years ago, or maybe it was Jay Leno, I don't know, but Peggy Lipton was on and she was talking about her affair with McCartney. She was saying about how years later he and Linda were in town and he called her up. She got all excited but he only asked her if she would watch his kids so he and Linda could have a night out.  She was devastated she said because she felt like he was the one and she still loved him but she did it anyway. Now, this was a long time ago and I could be remembering this story completely wrong, but for some reason that's how I remember it. Maybe I'll google it sometime when I'm in the mood. Wonder why he never stuck with her?


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SOME STUFF ABOUT PEGGY LIPTON

Peggy Lipton
AKA Margaret Ann Lipton



Born: 30-Aug-1946
Birthplace: New York City
Occupation: Actor
Nationality: United States


Peggy Lipton was born to an upper-class family on Long Island, and was sexually abused as a child. She began modeling professionally at age 15, and as often happens with abused children, she became a promiscuous young adult, sleeping around almost as soon as she arrived in Hollywood at the age of 17. Only months later, she was playing a student on The John Forsythe Show, a sitcom set in a private academy. The series lasted only one season, but Lipton remained busy after its cancellation, with TV guest spots and Disney's rarely-screened Civil War drama Mosby's Marauders -- rarely-screened because the Confederate soldiers are the good guys. In the film, Lipton played Kurt Russell's sister and fell for James MacArthur.

In 1968, The Mod Squad debuted, and Lipton became famous as Julie Barnes, a troubled girl from San Francisco's Haight-Ashbury who agreed to become an undercover cop as part of her probation. The part had already been cast with another actress, and the program's producers were just going through the motions with the last few auditions when Lipton walked in, with stick-straight hair and hippie sunglasses. Her sudden fame gave Lipton an "in" for brief encounters with everyone from Keith Moon to Sammy Davis, Jr., and as The Mod Squad ended she fell in love with composer and producer Quincy Jones. When they married, he demanded she give up her acting career, and she acquiesced, working only in a 1979 Return of the Mod Squad TV movie, until their marriage crumbled in the late 1980s. Lipton says she and Jones were often pulled over by police during their marriage, under the assumption that a white woman with a black man must be either a hooker or a kidnapping victim.

In recent years, she has had recurring roles on Twin Peaks and Alias. In NBC's 2000 mini-series The '70s she played Gloria Steinem. In the disastrous 1999 film of The Mod Squad, Claire Danes played Lipton's role.


Brother: Robert Lipton (actor, b. 20-Nov-1943)
Boyfriend: Paul McCartney (musician)
Boyfriend: Sammy Davis, Jr. (musician-actor)
Boyfriend: Elvis Presley (musician-actor)
Boyfriend: Lou Adler (producer, cohabited)
Boyfriend: Terence Stamp (actor)
Boyfriend: Christopher Stamp (brother of Terence, above)
Boyfriend: Keith Moon (musician)
Husband: Quincy Jones (m. Sep-1974, div. 1990, two children)
Daughter: Kidada Jones (actress, b. 22-Mar-1974)
Daughter: Rashida Jones (actress, b. 25-Feb-1976)


    Golden Globe 1971 for The Mod Squad
    
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    The Mod Squad Julie Barnes (1968-73)
    Twin Peaks Norma Jennings (1990-91)


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    True Identity (23-Aug-1991)
    Kinjite: Forbidden Subjects (3-Feb-1989)
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Wow, thanks for translating that long article, Raxo! Thanks for all the info, folks!


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Wow, thanks for translating that long article, Raxo! [...]

It's a pleasure!  (sorry for the delay tho)

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